What to expect from the USFL in 2024 (Hub wise)

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Great point which kind of makes you wonder why no one is trying to make a start a USBA or XBA
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BattleHawks wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:34 pm Great point which kind of makes you wonder why no one is trying to make a start a USBA or XBA
I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been an effort at an XHL.
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:54 pm
BattleHawks wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:34 pm Great point which kind of makes you wonder why no one is trying to make a start a USBA or XBA
I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been an effort at an XHL.
well, if you think about it, there are already tons of minor leagues for both hockey and baseball, but only one for basketball ( the NBA owned G League )
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BattleHawks wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:13 am
johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:54 pm
BattleHawks wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:34 pm Great point which kind of makes you wonder why no one is trying to make a start a USBA or XBA
I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been an effort at an XHL.
well, if you think about it, there are already tons of minor leagues for both hockey and baseball, but only one for basketball ( the NBA owned G League )
There are dozens of minor basketball leagues. They're so minor they play in high school gyms and seem to come and go every few years.

Baseball operates on a SCOTUS-decreed monopoly so they're a weird case.
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Lone Star wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:16 am Honestly, if it makes fiscal sense to stay with hubs for another year, hopefully with 5 or 6 instead of 4, then I'm for it. I wasn't as critical as many others were in Years 1 or 2 considering no other spring football league had completed a full season in over a decade until the USFL did so in 2022 (the 2010 UFL season only had five teams, an eight-game regular season, and a championship).

Pro football is going to be the most expensive alternative league to start up with 40-50-man rosters, the huge coaching staffs, and the bigger stadiums to rent. I'm for what it takes to keep the league viable for years to come.

As long as there is process for Year 3. Give me two more hubs. Tulane and the Philadelphia Union stadium.

Also, when we do get to home markets, I'm more and more intrigued in Columbus. Use the old Crew's stadium being the primary tenant and take advantage of a town that sends 70,000 people to a college football spring scrimmage.
Agreed. This is a tough business in a tough environment (two leagues, media/TV issues, inflation) so make progress (or at least don't regress) and go for the long haul...
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A lot of great non-NBA markets with sizeable arenas to pick from if someone were to start another rival basketball league. Obviously start with Vegas and Seattle the longer the NBA continues to eff around.

You could fill out the West with San Diego/Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis, and Omaha.

Birmingham, Cincinnati/Columbus, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Louisville in the East.

Other markets to consider could be Hartford, Baltimore, Raleigh, Nashville, Jacksonville, Tulsa, or El Paso. Austin's a hot city but doesn't have an NBA-sized arena anymore. If you were looking for WNBA-sized arenas you could sweep into Cedar Park after a lot of Spurs fans were worried the team was moving north.

And that's not even big basketball cities that have multiple major arenas you could use to avoid tampering with the NBA. New York, Detroit, Chicago, LA (Anaheim), DFW (Fort Worth).

The people who complain the most about today's NBA hate the politics and how "soft" the league has gotten with fouls, technicals, etc. You could adjust game and league rules after that and start marketing from there. The MBGA (Make Basketball Great Association) lol.
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Lone Star wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:53 pm A lot of great non-NBA markets with sizeable arenas to pick from if someone were to start another rival basketball league. Obviously start with Vegas and Seattle the longer the NBA continues to eff around.

You could fill out the West with San Diego/Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis, and Omaha.

Birmingham, Cincinnati/Columbus, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Louisville in the East.

Other markets to consider could be Hartford, Baltimore, Raleigh, Nashville, Jacksonville, Tulsa, or El Paso. Austin's a hot city but doesn't have an NBA-sized arena anymore. If you were looking for WNBA-sized arenas you could sweep into Cedar Park after a lot of Spurs fans were worried the team was moving north.

And that's not even big basketball cities that have multiple major arenas you could use to avoid tampering with the NBA. New York, Detroit, Chicago, LA (Anaheim), DFW (Fort Worth).

The people who complain the most about today's NBA hate the politics and how "soft" the league has gotten with fouls, technicals, etc. You could adjust game and league rules after that and start marketing from there. The MBGA (Make Basketball Great Association) lol.
The NBA is waiting for new broadcast deals before even considering expansion. We will know by the end of next summer who will broadcast NBA games.
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Lone Star wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:53 pm Omaha, Kansas City, St. Louis, Nashville, Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville, Pittsburgh
Bravo!

One only needs a quick glance at a map to see the sheer brilliance of these 8 location choices.
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most of those cities have local D1 teams, so it would be very easy to stock them with former players
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The challenge with hockey and basketball is the lack of available big markets. You can get players from all over the world to play those sports, but you're still stuck with a minor league revenue base.

Now with the small rosters of those sports, you might attempt a multinational league, but then you're up against the way sports is structured outside of N. America. The national sports federations everywhere else will see your franchises as a threat to their club systems. They can make life hard for you.

I like to imagine some foreign billionaire funding a basketball league that could actually put together $50,000,000 rosters playing in the biggest arenas in London, Paris, Berlin, New York, Tokyo, etc. They would play only on weekends and Monday nights, maybe a Fri.-Sun. or Sat.-Mon. 2-game series in each city with every game on TV. But no matter how famous players get, there's only so much revenue they can bring in with just their names.
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