XFL Files Trademark for LA Wildcats

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GDAWG wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:36 pm Someone on XFL Reddit:
The social media manager for Seattle said in an XFL chat a few days back that putting a team in California comes with unique labor laws that may make operating a team there incredibly complicated. New York as well has similar challenges but I'm not legal savvy so I'm not going to pretend to know better.

It probably would be significantly costly just from a standpoint of injury and labor protections. Stadiums, players, gear, coaches aside, California is just a whole different animal from the other states the XFL operates in
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That's true. New York also has the issue of worker's compensation being insanely expensive.

Of course, with the teams all nominally being based in Texas, does that technically apply except for the five games they'd play in the state?

But I do know that that's an issue in arena football, where the Albany Empire were very interested in jumping to the Arena Football League until they realized their worker's comp premium was around 15 times higher than other similar teams. That, and not the Antonio Brown nonsense, is why they got shut down midseason (and probably why the team got offloaded onto Brown, the only guy dumb enough to take that offer—who might have been driven by nostalgia over his father Eddie being on the Firebirds back in the '90s).
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:53 pm
GDAWG wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:36 pm Someone on XFL Reddit:
The social media manager for Seattle said in an XFL chat a few days back that putting a team in California comes with unique labor laws that may make operating a team there incredibly complicated. New York as well has similar challenges but I'm not legal savvy so I'm not going to pretend to know better.

It probably would be significantly costly just from a standpoint of injury and labor protections. Stadiums, players, gear, coaches aside, California is just a whole different animal from the other states the XFL operates in

https://en.reddit.com/r/xfl/comments/15 ... ldcats_in/
That's true. New York also has the issue of worker's compensation being insanely expensive.

Of course, with the teams all nominally being based in Texas, does that technically apply except for the five games they'd play in the state?

But I do know that that's an issue in arena football, where the Albany Empire were very interested in jumping to the Arena Football League until they realized their worker's comp premium was around 15 times higher than other similar teams. That, and not the Antonio Brown nonsense, is why they got shut down midseason (and probably why the team got offloaded onto Brown, the only guy dumb enough to take that offer—who might have been driven by nostalgia over his father Eddie being on the Firebirds back in the '90s).


Sports are considered 'performances' for the sake of taxes. You're taxed based on the location of your 'performance'. The issue is that they're not paid hourly. They're not collecting the same money on Tuesday at practice as they are the four hours or so they're 'on-the-clock' at the stadium playing the game. As with most, they're paid on a per-game, or pro-rated seasonal/per-game rate. That's what will be taxed and calculated for things like workers' comp, etc.
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Well have to say its going to cost but its a bold move into a mega-tv market and one in which the USFL will ignore. Its not far from LV so hopefully that's the team that goes. Assuming it more than a IP filing.

I think Mark Perry on XFL/USFLNewsHub said each league needs an attention 'catch' in 2024. This certainly would qualify.
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he says that having too many teams is the reason he doesn't think the LA Wildcats will happen.
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GDAWG wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:06 pm

he says that having too many teams is the reason he doesn't think the LA Wildcats will happen.
Yeah, But how does moving Vegas to LA add any teams?
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GDAWG wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:06 pm he says that having too many teams is the reason he doesn't think the LA Wildcats will happen.
I think it's already established that they're staying at 8. If the Wildcats come back in'24 (not likely IMO), it would be a relocation... but which team would be the one?

Having a team in LA benefits Seattle (2020 rivals), Vegas (2001 rivals) and St. "Kroenke Sucks" Louis. Orlando maybe? Still, I can't see them giving up on Florida yet.
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:56 am
GDAWG wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:06 pm he says that having too many teams is the reason he doesn't think the LA Wildcats will happen.
I think it's already established that they're staying at 8. If the Wildcats come back in'24 (not likely IMO), it would be a relocation... but which team would be the one?

Having a team in LA benefits Seattle (2020 rivals), Vegas (2001 rivals) and St. "Kroenke Sucks" Louis. Orlando maybe? Still, I can't see them giving up on Florida yet.
Like I posted above... Vegas goes to LA and league stays at 8. Vegas is the disaster (from ownership standpoint) they need to relocate anyway. Its the likely path forward... assuming LA happens at all
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For the record, I too think this is just to have the trademark.

But also, screw LA. They've already got two NFL teams they don't care about. If either league ponies up the money to go to Cali, it should be San Diego or even Sacramento. The UFL's Mountain Lions had some good turnouts at Hornet Stadium in 2010, even a couple of sellouts. And right now, that's the stadium size the leagues need to be at (20,000).
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Lone Star wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:26 pm But also, screw LA. They've already got two NFL teams they don't care about.

both teams are top 10 in attendance:

8 Los Angeles 8 572,791 71,598
10 Los Angeles 9 632,160 70,240
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BattleHawks wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:03 pm
Lone Star wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:26 pm But also, screw LA. They've already got two NFL teams they don't care about.

both teams are top 10 in attendance:

8 Los Angeles 8 572,791 71,598
10 Los Angeles 9 632,160 70,240
Meh, there are 18 other stadiums that can't seat that many.
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