"Real USFL" sues new USFL

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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:08 pm It's interesting that Csonka (representing the Jacksonville Bulls as former GM and minority owner) is the only name publicly attached to this proposal and that none of the others are mentioned. (That said, Steve Ehrhart of Memphis made similar remarks a few months ago, so he's almost certainly involved.)

So who represents the other teams that were still around in 1986?
- Birmingham: probably no clear interest, since Marvin Warner went bankrupt and the city bailed them out (and we all know the city of Birmingham is all in on the new USFL).
- Tampa Bay: the owners who bought the team from John Bassett and Steve Arky went bankrupt, as did the now-deceased Burt Reynolds due to unrelated issues in 1996. Would you believe Loni Anderson might be the Bandits' rightful heir?
- New Jersey: Donald Trump sees the USFL as small potatoes and has bigger issues to face.
- Baltimore: Stephen Ross is in the NFL right now. It's doubtful he has much of an opinion.
- Orlando: Donald Dizney (no relation to the Disneys) and Charles Givens. Givens died in 1998 under a maelstrom of fraud charges. Dizney is still active in business. He might be part of it.
- Arizona: Bill Tatham is still in the business. He might be part of it.

Basically all the owners likely to be part of it are of teams whose brands aren't being used, and all the team brands that are being used either folded before the league went out of business, don't care, or simply have no next of kin.

I'm just curious as to what they're angling to get? To get it shut down? To get an ownership stake?
The usual - someone else's money.

Notice they created an LLC to sue so as to protect themselves from counter suit. People are pathetic.
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Maybe the old ownership group just wanted free season tickets, some hotdogs, and a chance to see how a real alt league should be run; just say'n.
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https://twitter.com/BenFischerSBJ/statu ... 5326259202

I hope Fox gets Csonka's balz on a platter
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Even FOX is not claiming that they secured the trademarks, which means that they probably didn't.

The USFL has been licensing ‘throwback’ merchandise for years, hence their copyrights are probably still in force.

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Steve Ehrhart, former USFL executive director contends that the USFL still exists, and that league officials still get monthly royalty checks:

“I want to dig into it and see who they’re claiming they acquired these rights from. Because it didn’t come from any legitimate source.”

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BattleHawks wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:11 am Steve Ehrhart, former USFL executive director contends that the USFL still exists, and that league officials still get monthly royalty checks:

“I want to dig into it and see who they’re claiming they acquired these rights from. Because it didn’t come from any legitimate source.”

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BattleHawks wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:32 pm Even FOX is not claiming that they secured the trademarks, which means that they probably didn't.

The USFL has been licensing ‘throwback’ merchandise for years, hence their copyrights are probably still in force.

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Because Fox wasn't the one who secured them, Brian Woods did. And Woods acquiring the trademarks was public record, easily searchable in the USPTO online system. The trademarks were abandoned for dead after the old USFL legally folded in 1990. For a group like “The Real USFL, LLC” to materialize 32 years after that and claim something that public record shows is blatantly untrue is fraud.

Fox should countersue for $3.
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Ehrhart said that the league retained the rights to the USFL name after the ’86 legal battle with the NFL. He said league officials also licensed the rights to the team logos and still even get a royalty check every month.

“It’s not a big check, but we have a bank account in the USFL name,” he said. “So, we’ve been in continuous use for nearly 40 years. So they would need to sit down and talk with us. We’d be open to doing that.”
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:38 am
BattleHawks wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:32 pm
Because Fox wasn't the one who secured them, Brian Woods did
Except that he didn't.

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